Creating a Sustainable Life with Liz Beavis

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On today’s episode, I am talking with Liz Beavis from Eight Acres, a blog all about life on a small farm in rural Queensland. It’s a virtual farm gate to her products that she makes herself. She lives on 250 acres near a small town called Kumbia with her partner, Pete and her two dogs, Taz and Gus. They’ve got cows, chickens, bees, are into permaculture and veggie gardening. You can probably call it homesteading or self-sufficiency. They try to grow and make as much of their own things as possible. They’ve tried it all from tanning a steer hide, butchering chickens, making butter, sprouting chickpeas, making cheese, hatching chickens, turkeys to getting fouls and growing all sorts of weird subtropical, vegetables and perennials.


Facebook: @EightAcresNaturalLiving
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  • Book – Holistic Management by Allan Savory
  • Book – Permaculture by David Holmgren
  • Book – Cradle to Cradle: Remaking the Way We Make Things by William McDonough


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Liz and I met many years ago through my old blog Strayed from the Table and have always kept in contact. She’s still the lady who I buy my honey and soap from. On today’s episode we are going to talk all about self-sufficiency and creating a sustainable life and what that looks like for both of us. So let’s dive into today’s episode. 

Lizzie M:
Hey Liz, thanks so much for joining me on the show today. 

Liz B:

Hey Lizzie, I’m so excited. I love your podcast. I’m so excited. 

Lizzie M:

You’re my first guest back here in 2020. I couldn’t be more excited to have someone whose philosophies of way of living is just like so aligned to what I love. I would love for you to share about your story and how you ended up on your property and what you do. 

Liz B:
Well, it’s probably a bit of a long story, but I’ll try and summarize it for you. I grew up in New Zealand and have you been here is Lizzie?

Lizzie M:
I have only been to the South Island only 

Liz B:
Yeah. You probably know it’s quite everyone’s into nature. Everyone does outdoors sort of stuff. Everyone knows someone that lives on a farm. Yeah. So that’s where I grew up. That’s where I started. My parents are really into DIY gardening. So my mom’s a teacher. She’s always in the garden, sewing nursing. My dad is an engineer. He’s always fixing things and building stuff. He just collects bits and pieces and he’s always making something. Even my grandparents and my aunties and uncles, everyone has a garden, chickens, all that stuff. I think it’s natural that’s where I’m ended up. At the time I was not interested that I thought wise man, growing silver Bay, I didn’t want to eat. I just thought the garden was a stupid idea. When I was a kid, I realized later in life that your parents were onto something. I actually studied chemical engineering in New Zealand. 

At the time I was really interested in energy and climate change. I thought I can do a PhD and I want to do a PhD on energy. I just, I got a bit sidetracked because all the PhDs that had scholarship funding at the time were all about clean coal. So I was like, Oh, clean car. That sounds interesting. I’m going to say who out. But I did a PhD. I actually came over to Brisbane. That’s when I came to Australia and I lived in Brisbane for four years. Did the PhD in claim Colbert halfway through. I realized that probably wasn’t going to save the world, but I’m someone that kind of commits to finish what I started. Finish the PhD and I was trying to live sustainably while I was in the city, pretty much just because I had no money. So scholarships and great. 

So I was like using public transport. I didn’t have a car living in a share house trying to grow some stuff, but it’s really hard when you’re branching, that kind of thing. Towards the end of my PhD, I met my husband. He at the time was living on five acres in the luckier Valley. He had a bit of a garden going and he had some chickens and are just connected with that. I was like, that is the kind of thing I want to do. I ended up moving in with pate and we really developed a big garden and the chickens and we didn’t go to potty calf. We used to walk down the road and have the dairy farmers down the road, Mobic house, just random stuff. That’s probably where I started looking at Pam McCarter and just really getting interested in what can you do? 

At the same time, there was a dead bird, flu pandemic kind of thing. I remember everyone going to the shops and stocking up on rice and noodles and things. I just thought, when you’re living in a shared house, you’ve just, you can’t grow anything for yourself. How long has a few packets of rice and noodles gonna last you? So I had in the back of my mind and you look after yourself and be prepared in case something happens. I finished the PhD and I did some consulting work. I eventually got a job at a coal fired power station, still doing the coal, but trying to live sustainably. Then we moved to the South Burnett. You’ve heard of Kingaroy on angle, is that area West of Brisbane. Yeah. That two hours drive from Brisbane there. We bought X out a property there because we still wanted to live on a bit of land. 

And we started a garden. We had chickens, we had cattle, beef cattle, and we got cow and we just kept going with, trying different things and then way what so well, we decided we wanted a bigger property because we had problems on that property with water. It was really hard to have enough water for all our animals. There was one dam and unless you’ve got enough rain, you never had enough water. We’re driving into town and buying pods of water and it was quite stressful. We thought if we bought a bigger property, we would have enough water and enough fade to be able to keep the animals that we want. We might be able to have some extra to sell. My husband found a 258 property, which was about 50 kilometers away near Columbia and had no house. So were able to afford the land. 

We had to decide what kind of house to build. We probably spent about two years thinking about it and going, well, do we want mud brick or do we want straw bales? Do we want render? Or which alternative green building methods do we want to try? And then how many bedrooms and how many bathrooms in it, say, I need a ton of us. What do we really need? And pay down this house, it was just a house or mobile, but $10,000. I said, Oh, I bet it’s in horrible condition. We had a look and it actually looked really nice, like needed some work, but it looked in reasonably good condition. Went ahead and looked at it and we bought it. It took six months to actually move the house and do all the council paperwork and everything. It took us another three years just to get the house and repaint it. 

Were doing most of the work to the house, just brought some workers in to help us with the kitchen in the bathroom and that kind of thing. That really helped because we then didn’t have to make all the decisions. It was a three bedroom house with one bathroom and we didn’t have to try and figure it out before plan. It was just okay, which orientation? So we put it on property and just put it down and work on it. And it was really. 

Well, 250 acres. It’s more like, where’s it going to go? Right. 

Well, close to the electricity. We looked at the whole off grid option, but because he’s metal fabricated, that’s his tried. So he likes to run as welders. At the time it was really difficult to get a solar system in a battery system that would run welders and for the same price, basically applying all of that, we could pay for our grid connections. We had to put the house quite close to the neighbors so that we could bring electricity. I hate saying it like you could see the power pole out in the yard. I hate saying that I wish we could have done the standalone solar system, but it just, at the time, it wasn’t economical. I think things are improving now. We are going to put solar up, but that’s probably people are surprised that, wait during the sustainability stuff, the one thing we haven’t done yet is all the power, but it’s on the list. It’s going to happen. 

Anyway, I think we’ve been here for three years. We’ve got cattle at different times. We have more cattle and we’ve had some extra to sell at the moment. We haven’t had a lot of rain, so we’re right down to the minimum and just our house count a few extras. We’ve got chickens. I think we’ve got about 20 chickens and chicken tractors with the, in it, around them. We got bays and we got 10 beehives and produce the honey out of that, got a big garden set up. I’ve got four big raised beds and we just planted out fruit bars. So got that happening. We’ve got a ball, luckily right down the bottom of our property. We pump that up to a tank at the top. And then we gravity feed that down. So that was the big thing. Once we got that set up, then we could do the garden in the very first. 

The exciting news Lizzie is, I am about to change jobs. Yes I’m so excited. I’ve just got a job at a wind farm that has been just down the road. It’s like 50 kilometers down the road towards Darwin. Finally my professional life matches my personal values are really excited to get into renewable energy, but yeah, energy was really my interest. Right. I keep that as the same for all of those. 

Lizzie M:
I love this, how funny is it that your dad was an engineer and your mom loved to garden? 

Liz B:
Yeah. You know, like both sides. And so. 

Lizzie M:
I think I lucked out too. Because Liz actually lives 10 kilometers away from my parents, which is like, nah, we don’t escape our roots. Like you can’t take the country, go out of a country girl. Like it’s just in you. Like I like to crochet, you learn to knit. Like there’s always a veggie garden at the time. You’re why do this? But like the little traits that we would have throughout the year, like fresh strawberries and corn, like we’d go and like get a fresh cup of corn and like munch on it for as an afternoon taste snack, like those memories of crazy, like not many people have that in their life. 

Liz B:
Well, I grew up in the city – that’s what everyone thinks that I must be from a farm. They say, Oh, you’re from a farm. I say, no. They say, Oh, was your husband know what, how he had those from the city. Yeah. 

Lizzie M:
Right. Like you know live that way. It was like still the backyard farmer to me is, 

Liz B:
I think that just goes to show what you can do in the city or in suburbs. You don’t have to have 200 acres. You don’t have to have eight acres. You can do stuff on a quarter acre block or smaller. You just have to find a way. 

Lizzie M:
Liz’s blog. Did you start that in Brisbane or did you start at when you moved to. 

Liz B:
I started it in 2010. I think we’ve been living on AWS for about a year. The thing was, people used to say to me, Oh, where’d you get up to on the weekend? And I’d say, Oh, we killed 10 chickens and you’d explain it. Well we live on eight acres, so we’ve got space to produce bird and we try to do things for ourselves. That was how I kept explaining it. I just, when you set up a blog and you’re sitting there thinking, what am I going to call this? And then I, I, and that’s just what it turned into. Yeah. Even after we moved, I left the name because I felt like it doesn’t matter how much land you have. 

Lizzie M:
It doesn’t cause that’s the thing like both you and I have testimony. Like in a city living and growing vegetables, and I even had chickens in my rental property for a while, it is doable, fresh eggs all around. Why did you decide to leave the style of life? 

Liz B:
It’s sort of not one reason. Yeah. Part of it was environment. Just thinking we need to live sustainably. We need to think about the resources that we’re using and the waste that we’re producing. I suppose the PhD that I was doing was part of a sustainability kind of center of research. I was involved in that and thinking about that. So yeah. Concern for the environment. Also at the same time, I was saying a naturopath. They’re talking about detoxing and avoiding packaged foods and processed foods and starting to think about the chemicals and food and cosmetics and that kind of thing. When you start thinking about that, the alternative kind of leads you towards what can I grow or what’s more natural. What can I make for myself? Because that’s the only way you can be sure that you’re avoiding the chemicals. And then there’s also just being cheap. 

Both paid and I have really Google parents. I think we just naturally kind of go, if you can make it, you, it, if you can mean something or fix something or make something last longer or grow up for yourself, you just do that rather than why would you buy it if you didn’t have to it? So we’re both kind of naturally a bit frugal. I think that contributes to me, it’s those three things. There’s concern for the environment, avoiding chemicals and just trying to live frugally, 

Lizzie M:
It keeps more money to put into things you actually want to spend it on, which is like holidays, like family, not right now, but like to me frugal living, like when I first moved to the city, it was the same thing. Like I think I was outraged that a bunch of possibly would cost $2 50 at the time I was like, Oh, that’s out of control. I am not paying, it’s 50 per bunch of possibly, I’m going to go buy a bunch of possibly and put it in the ground and grow it. And I’m never paying that. Like that’s that frugal living? Like, I don’t know. It’s like, it does ingrain in you. Like how can you make other things happen? So sustainable living. Can you explain your opinion? Like what do you see sustainable living as? 

Liz B:
Yeah. I think it comes down to thinking about the resources that you’re using and the waste that you’re producing and just acknowledging that there’s not infinite resources and there’s not infinite space for your waste. I think the other thing is that I suppose people get tied up in feeling guilty about what they’re consuming and that doesn’t help either. I think sustainable living is just doing what you can do. Where you are at the time, you can’t do everything. If you’re thinking about it, you’re at least kind of reduce your impact. For example, when I was living in Brisbane, I didn’t have a car and I was so pleased with myself, I was using public transport and it wasn’t contributing any emissions or using any petrol and then moved out to a rural area. Of course I had to borrow a car, that was the end of that. 

Yeah, at different times you can contribute in different ways, but yeah, I think no one should feel guilty about not being able to do everything because no one has time. You’ve just got to look at what you can contribute and do what you can. 

Lizzie M:
It’s really coming back to the resources of like, as you said, like what you’re using, but also what you’re actually wasting. Like what’s coming in and out about daily life. 

Liz B:
Yeah. Simple as that. I think if you can reduce both of those things, you’re being sustainable. 

Lizzie M:
I’m like, what do you mean stop using things so that I consume things. Now you got me thinking I would love actually. Have you had some like crazy learning experiences, like through this process of like leaning into sustainable living? Cause like I’ve made some face soaps in my time and I didn’t grind the almonds properly, then we’re really sharp. I like scratched my face to pieces when I used it. I dunno, like have you got some sort of learning experiences you’d like to share? 

Liz B:
I was thinking maybe more generally. I think the thing is this is all a journey. This is just started as an interest and I read one book and I’d go, Ooh, I didn’t think of that is a really good book. It’s code cried him to cry too. That was one of the first things I read. That was about how you should be designing and making things that are intended to be recycled, but not just recycle because often when you recycle something, it loses value. It’s it’s less useful, but this is you should be designing. For example, if you designed a chair, you should make it so that you could pull it apart and reuse all the pieces, the something else. Yeah. So that was that cradle-to-cradle concept. There’s just all these books, I’ve read another book and go, Ooh, and it just keeps voting and voting. 

It’s not like I just came to this one day and went or okay, I get it. This is what I’m going to do. It’s gradual that they are the one that really influenced me is kind of a culture. It right when code permaculture principles and pathways beyond sustainability and that’s by David Hall, grim, who’s one of the core originators of permaculture. I’m just going to say. 

Lizzie M:
Link in the show notes for both of those books as well. 

Liz B:
Permanent culture really talks about three ethics care for the earth care for people and their share, which just making sure that everyone has enough and that you’re sharing your exists. And then it has 12 principles. I find that really useful to kind of come back to as a bit of a guiding kind of ethic to live by when you’re trying to make a decision or what do I do you thinking back to those ethics, the other one, this holistic management, this was when I’ve read more recently, it’s by Ellen savory, he goes to a new framework for decision making. It’s about how you set up your property, but it’s also kind of how you, like, he assure me if you’ve got a property than this, your lifestyle as well. Do what I mean? So he talks about setting holistic goals and he says, every decision you make, you should be having a look at your goal and making sure that whatever you’re doing takes you towards that goal, a holistic goal covers everything that you want to achieve. 

Lizzie M:

It, so it means that you don’t just run off on, I want to make money. You’re just working all the time and then you’re not spending time with your family. You write your list of goals. I want to have enough to be able to live a certain way and spend time with my family and so that you make sure whatever you do lead towards that. That’s been a really good one as well. Sorry I think general learning, just keep writing, keep building on it. There’s always more to learn and more to think about. Can I, yeah. So I’m an experienced person. I pretty much. 

Era like that almond situation on my face, sustainable living, like there’s hates of awesome books and yeah, I’ve actually had a two out of those three. I’m like, yes, but you learn, but then you have to like implement. ? Right. 

Liz B:
That’s probably the other thing, like I said before, you can’t feel guilty when you can’t do everything, but then there’s different things that you can do. Like we had a milking cow, we still have, we moved over for probably three or four years and then it just became too much to get up in the morning and to go through all of that. We’re stopped smoking, we still have a, she has a calf, she’s fine, but there’s some things that you try and you go, well, that was interesting. I’m glad I know that skill. I might need it in the future, but I don’t have time to keep doing that. There’s other things like we don’t buy any plastic sponges for the, doing the dishes anymore. I’ve cut up all these towels, I’ve zigzagged the itches and we just use these towels and check them in the wash. 

We’re just really using them and we don’t have to generate any plastic sponge waste. So compost is all worm composting. All our veggies going in there and like that’s something that we’ve started and stopped at different times when we couldn’t get it to work, but eventually you figure it out and you just do it. 

Lizzie M:
There’s things that you try and they work and you go, yes, I’m going to keep doing that. There’s things that I just had good to know and just pack that and move on. Try the next thing. 

I think that’s like a really good piece of advice, like just, see what works, try it and like, yeah, keep what sticks and let go of the ones that don’t. Do you have any other little tips for those who want to live a sustainable life? 

Liz B:
Well, the other thing I wanted to tell you about was from that book, that permaculture principles of pathways beyond sustainability, one of the principles is code apply self regulation and accept feedback. That’s where he really says talking about sustainable living and just write out some of it. He says in a modern society, we take for granted an enormous degree of dependence on large scale, often remote systems for provision of our needs while expecting a huge degree of freedom in what we do without external control. In a sense, our host society is like a teenager who wants to have it all, have it now without consequences. I love this book, this whole book. I’m like, yes. He talks about taking responsibility. He’s saying you need to change the world by changing yourself, which I love, like when I see everyone matching for climate change and the government must do something and all of that. 

I just think how many of you drove to that purchase? You need to change the way you live, as well as expecting the government to do something because all the government’s going to is do something that forces you to change the way you live. So just change yourself. Like you don’t have to wait for anyone to do that for you. What he suggests, and this chapter is about doing a South audit. He says that you can take responsibility for the consequences of your personal habits and behaviors during a self audit. That’s considering all your inputs and outputs, like you said, Lizzy, both material and otherwise, and considering the needs and you, and he says, it’s like similar to a permaculture design process, but it’s previewing your life. So all your inputs and outputs, 

Lizzie M:

It’s definitely important. Like so it’s like what your material consumption is, but also what your emotional wellbeing needs. Like your needs, but the actual necessities that you like, is it family time or do I need to drive to be able to get them kind of thing? Or is it like, actually I really want that chocolate like, well, 

Liz B:

Well, the price is that he suggests as you brainstorm your needs, wants addictions, abilities, liabilities, and responsibilities, addictions, abilities, ability, liabilities, and responsibility. I can scan this page too, if you want. Yes. I love this. He says, consider all the influences and connections. That’s a bit of a permaculture thing where you’re trying to, well, I drive because I’m trying to do this, I have to drive to work. I have to drive for family or, so connecting everything up. He says, Matt, the material and energy flows and your personal movement patterns, and then take responsibility without guilt or blame on others. So that’s really important. I think, just write it all down, just get it on the page and don’t stress about it because then the next step is looking for opportunities to reduce dependence, minimize harm, and improve quality of life. He’s saying, make small changes and review the audit. 

It’s not about putting everything down and just failing really stink about it and discouraging it up because once you’ve got it all on the page, it’s a bit scary, but it’s more saying, well, okay, now have a look at it. What’s the first small thing you’re going to change or what are you going to try and do first? So, but if you’ve got it all there, you can say, what’s the most obvious thing that I can do just to make it. So that. 

Lizzie M:
Just a couple of things between you and I like what’s five things that you would suggest is like the smallest change someone could make. 

Liz B:
I’ve been saying, can you reduce how much you use your car? Even if okay, if there’s no public transport, but what we do is if we’re driving into town or we’re driving to work, what else do we pick up on the why? So you reduce a trip. You think, okay, what are all the things I need to do if I’m going into town and I do them all in one trip and then that’s it for the weekend, ? And we go at once and get everything because I find this paper. They’re like, Oh, I just need to get this from the shop. Oh I need to go out again. I need to, and they’re not. 

Lizzie M:
Time management really, isn’t it’s time management. 

Liz B:
If you’re reducing your feel and thinking about how you’re using it, the other one would be in your house, thinking about your air conditioning and your heating, just basic things. Like do you have curtains on your windows? Are you sailing under the doors around your windows? Like in summer, are you North facing windows shaded or are they getting folks and which has then just contributing to the hate load? Is there something you can do, like put a shade on the outside of a tree on the outside or reduce the amount of sun that’s coming in. There’s lots of ways you can reduce the amount that you’re heating and cooling your house. 

Lizzie M:
Cause that big cost factors, like we, yeah. Like we are looking at this year, getting fans like pretty snazzy for us, 

Liz B:
This is all, like everything you do to reduce your inputs actually saves him money as well. It’s, you shouldn’t have to make a huge investment to achieve those. So. 

Lizzie M:
Funny. So Liz taught me something. So yeah. You taught me something. I can’t remember. It was by the last year, the year before, but I always like in winter to warm the house, I opened the house in the middle of the day, just for a couple of hours to let the warm air in, but I always close it before the sun goes down. Therefore it retains the heat or like as soon as he can feel the coal, I closed the house, 

Liz B:
Retains the heat. 

Lizzie M:
Away, Liz summer. She’s like, put your cuttings up in some, on the North facing piece. I’m like, why would you do that? So anyway, 

Liz B:
It make sense. 

Lizzie M:
You did a post about it on Instagram. I was like, anyway, so I did it. I was like, okay, let me try this. I trialed our bedrooms, which North and West facing. I put up curtains and close them off from the rest of the house. We’re like, cause my kids so napped at the time, is it going to be cool enough in there for them to have an app? Or am I going to go take them and sit them on the tiles in the kitchen to have a nap? like the coldest spot. I know what, like little things. 

I can imagine how much energy, like we don’t have the option of having air con or a heater  thing. Like we’ve got a woodstove, but we still have to seal gaps and things to retain them. 

Liz B:
So, yeah. Yeah. So our house is a Queenslander. So hundred-year-old Queensland. It would have been before electricity. So wasn’t designed to have air-con. It used to have a full veranda around the outside and they’ve built in different paths of it. So we moved it. We made sure it was orientated to get the least amount of sun in the house, which is bizarre coming from New Zealand. Do you want to have sun? And you have spent in Queensland and nursing. They had one verandas built in with Oh, windows around the outside. We have a houses sitting originally that got full afternoon sun. You can just imagine how ridiculous that would have been. So we made it face South. So it gets little sound as possible. The first year we said, okay, we’re not going to install air conditioning. We’re just going to say how it goes. 

We’ve got ceiling fans. We’ve tried to orientate this house. We replaced the roof. So it was red. We replaced it with them hyperbaric, which is a, like a beigey colored roof. As light as possible, we put insulation in the roof. We did everything we could to try and passively rejoice the hate in the house. The first year we found, as long as we kept the doors closed on that sunny veranda, the rest of the house was co sorry. I said to paint, well, rather than installing air conditioning, what I want to do is just put blinds in that room for about the same cost. Cause it’s a big room. We put roller blinds on every window. 

Lizzie M:
And conditioning costs ongoing, you know? Yeah, 

Liz B:
Exactly. Yeah. It doesn’t cost me anything to go and put blinds down every morning. What we do in summer is every morning I just go around and I pull all the carrot is closed. All the blinds, shut all the doors. When we come home in the afternoon, the house is cold. 

Lizzie M:
Just a note for everyone listening. Like Liz actually lives somewhere where it gets really hot in the middle of the day. Like it really does get stinking hot and there’s not like trees to like shade so much, like where I live. Like. 

Any other tips that you want to share?

Liz B:
Composting, composting. All of your vegetable waste from occasion can go into a compost. You’re not putting it in the rubbish bin. I think it’s really important to consider that your inputs and your outputs, what waste are you creating and what apps could you do with that waste? And if you have trouble getting a compost to work, I had a haste to travel with the compost because it would get too hot and too dry. We got a worm plan and the worms ate everything. I think you can keep a womb clam. Even the smallest spice, if you’ve got a balcony or a small patio, you could have a worm farm. That’s just one way you can just have the waste that you’re putting in the rubbish bin, 

Worm juice from worm farms, like literally liquid gold. If you’ve got pot plants. You’re one of those like people who just loves plants in the house and you have like a small veranda garden in a city, seriously, a small one farm use that juice that they comes out, put it in your plants. You will have the most amazing plants. You’ll pot plants inside will like love you . 

Lizzie M:

So, and once again, you’re reusing stuff, right? Everything does not go to waste Liz, if you want to follow leads, actually her blog Yeah. It’s the place to go find her. She still shares stories about her lifestyle, but she is also my soap lady who I buy soap from. So go check her out. Thank you so much for being on the show. It’s been great. Fun. 

Liz B:
Good to have a chat. 

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